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	<title>Comments on: China&#8217;s Demographic Roller Coaster to Peak by 2030</title>
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		<title>By: Silk Road International Blog &#187; Some Quick Numbers in China</title>
		<link>http://www.allroadsleadtochina.com/2009/09/15/chinas-demographic-roller-coaster-to-peak-in-2030/comment-page-1/#comment-5489</link>
		<dc:creator>Silk Road International Blog &#187; Some Quick Numbers in China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the central government is putting out, show that China is going to have a very different set of demographics in just 20 to 30 years.  And, as the comments point out, there are significant questions about the accuracy of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the central government is putting out, show that China is going to have a very different set of demographics in just 20 to 30 years.  And, as the comments point out, there are significant questions about the accuracy of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edward.

Primary obstacles to meal of wheels were logistical and regulatory. You have large numbers of people who are living by themselves at an advanced age and are in need, and that presents a number of challenges.

When looking into just one neighborhood, we found that a single center was able tto deliver 150 meals in 1 hour using 2 people on bicycles.  In the US, that would take 4-5 people in cars.  however, to scale that up would require significant investment in equipment and people.

Operationally, then you also have the regulations surrounding food delivery, the risks of food quality, and the need to develop a menu of items that could be chosen.

Service wise, you then need to think about training staff.  Staff who are going to be delivering meals are the window into many of these homes, and would need to be trained to look out for certain things -apartment condition, physical health, mental awareness, etc..  

A lot of things to consider.

R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward.</p>
<p>Primary obstacles to meal of wheels were logistical and regulatory. You have large numbers of people who are living by themselves at an advanced age and are in need, and that presents a number of challenges.</p>
<p>When looking into just one neighborhood, we found that a single center was able tto deliver 150 meals in 1 hour using 2 people on bicycles.  In the US, that would take 4-5 people in cars.  however, to scale that up would require significant investment in equipment and people.</p>
<p>Operationally, then you also have the regulations surrounding food delivery, the risks of food quality, and the need to develop a menu of items that could be chosen.</p>
<p>Service wise, you then need to think about training staff.  Staff who are going to be delivering meals are the window into many of these homes, and would need to be trained to look out for certain things -apartment condition, physical health, mental awareness, etc..  </p>
<p>A lot of things to consider.</p>
<p>R</p>
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		<title>By: China&#8217;s population&#8230;. whimper &#171; Beats and Pieces</title>
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		<dc:creator>China&#8217;s population&#8230;. whimper &#171; Beats and Pieces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which I consider crucial is demographics and the post below is useful in reminding in us that not all is necessarily well in the Kingdom: More important &#8230; though is that the bulge that was the 1960s and 1970s population boom is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which I consider crucial is demographics and the post below is useful in reminding in us that not all is necessarily well in the Kingdom: More important &#8230; though is that the bulge that was the 1960s and 1970s population boom is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rich,

Nice. I didn&#039;t get a chance to sift through those links but I definitely will. As for the &#039;meals on wheels&#039; what kind of obstacles are there?

-Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rich,</p>
<p>Nice. I didn&#8217;t get a chance to sift through those links but I definitely will. As for the &#8216;meals on wheels&#8217; what kind of obstacles are there?</p>
<p>-Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Edward.

Going to have to point you back to the posts that I have linked to..  In each of those, I think a fair amount of issues/ solutions have been highlighted.

However, a few interesting things that I have seen lately are related to lifestyle services and quality of life for those who are over 60.. and those who have limited mobility.  several years back I worked with one of the districts on a &quot;Meals on Wheels&quot; feasibility, and while the program requirements were huge, it is interesting to see how it is progressing.. and how other programs are able to dovetail.

R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Edward.</p>
<p>Going to have to point you back to the posts that I have linked to..  In each of those, I think a fair amount of issues/ solutions have been highlighted.</p>
<p>However, a few interesting things that I have seen lately are related to lifestyle services and quality of life for those who are over 60.. and those who have limited mobility.  several years back I worked with one of the districts on a &#8220;Meals on Wheels&#8221; feasibility, and while the program requirements were huge, it is interesting to see how it is progressing.. and how other programs are able to dovetail.</p>
<p>R</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What specific problems will arise? What are some solutions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What specific problems will arise? What are some solutions?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anders.

Honestly, this is the one flaw (albeit a major one) in the system.. 2nd and 3rd children.

When speaking about the data collection methods, it was pretty clear that the same people who were responsible for counting kids via the census were also the same people who were supposed to be limiting families to 1 child.

So, you are right in that it could very well be a different ratio, and were you to suggest that the total population were actually higher... it is a case that others would certainly back you on

R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anders.</p>
<p>Honestly, this is the one flaw (albeit a major one) in the system.. 2nd and 3rd children.</p>
<p>When speaking about the data collection methods, it was pretty clear that the same people who were responsible for counting kids via the census were also the same people who were supposed to be limiting families to 1 child.</p>
<p>So, you are right in that it could very well be a different ratio, and were you to suggest that the total population were actually higher&#8230; it is a case that others would certainly back you on</p>
<p>R</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;boy to girl ratio since 1980 is 120 to 100&quot;.

This one could be disputed, as there is a very large unknown female population in the county side without hukou, that have been tucked away. One can still live in China without a hukou or a shenfenzheng especially outside the big cities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;boy to girl ratio since 1980 is 120 to 100&#8243;.</p>
<p>This one could be disputed, as there is a very large unknown female population in the county side without hukou, that have been tucked away. One can still live in China without a hukou or a shenfenzheng especially outside the big cities.</p>
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