One of the things I love about China, is that “China experts” can have worked in the same city, assisted largely the same firms, be roughly of the same intelligence.. and yet disagree on things that one would think were fundamental.
The first time I witnessed this in China (keep in mind I used to watch a lot of CNBC), was at an AMCHAM where you had three economists debate what was going to happen with the RMB.. and just how undervalued it was.
The next experience I had was when I moderated a panel on real estate in Shanghai (a pretty well discussed topic you would think), and the differences between investors, economists, and agent expectations was fascinating.
more recently though, it has been over the topic of China’s market size, and more specifically the size of China’s middle class. Type it into google, and you get a pretty decent range of opinions… 57 million … 10o million… 200 million.. and so on.
One of the most vocal critics of the big 200 and above numbers is the well known Paul French, and it is he who for a while stood out from the crowd and said that China’s middle class is not as large as others would say.. and it is definitely not in the 200 million range
And when I saw the recent Youtube (h/t Danwei)of Paul French taking shots at JWT’s Tom Doctroff - also considered to be very well versed in China, I realized that the fight was spilling out into the street… one Old China hand against another!
Like Thomas Crampton, I too would like to hear Tom’s reply to this. for me, I know each equally well, which is to say that I have seen both of them present and heard good things about both. My view on the middle class is that (1) you cannot trust any statistic (2) you cannot base your numbers on luxury sales and (3) it is surely more fragile than anyone would like to admit.
UPDATE - Doctoroff Responds to French
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